Losing our immune systems

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Losing our immune systems

Post: # 13290Post Zark »

I've often thought about why our immune systems are failing.. what modern technology or social changes are causing this. It seems most noticeable in wealthy western countries where our immune systems are becoming dysfunctional at alarming rates. Asthma rates in Australia above 10% in kids, likewise food allergies such as peanut allergy have skyrocketed, and other inflammatory issues too such as eczema. What's going on?

My understanding is that people come to my country Australia from other countries and then immune problems such as asthma, food allergies or eczema arise in their children. Problems that were unknown of in their previous generations.

What are your thoughts on this folks? Environmental poisons? EMF? What's going on?!?


I see this as a probably mechanism for how we may be losing our immune systems. Epigenetics is the science of how our gene expression is altered over a series of generations by environmental factors. Your DNA sequence isn’t actually changed, however sections of DNA can be silenced. That means the DNA is still there but being wrapped up (in histones) and suppressed. This kind of change can be something as simple as changes in eating habits due to an abundance of food / affluence, leading to poor health in future generations. These changes in gene expression are inheritable!

There is also a specialised field dealing with cancer epigenetics.


* Överkalix study https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Överkalix_study

* Epigenetics https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epigenetics

"How many children have asthma? In 2017–18, an estimated 10% (around 460,000) of Australian children aged 0–14 had asthma as a long-term condition. Asthma was more common among boys aged 0–14 years (12%) compared with girls (7.9%). This pattern has been consistent since 2001 (ABS 2018)" -- www.aihw.gov.au
Epigenetics may be involved in Asthma.. I understand this to be a heated debate that is unsettled in science (but what I read is a few years old, so I may be behind).

See also:

* Epigenetics: The New Frontier in the Landscape of Asthma https://www.hindawi.com/journals/scient ... 6/4638949/

* Does epigenetics play a role in human asthma? https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/a ... 3015002130
* Epigenetic Mechanisms in Asthma https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5015730/
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Re: Losing our immune systems

Post: # 13291Post Arki Akitepayo »

Overall it seems that the materialistic path that humanity has taken in the last century seems to "derail" our internal system from nature's self balance. Things like noise contamination, which the Grand Thaori specifically warned us about, could be bringing changes in our last generations maybe?
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Re: Losing our immune systems

Post: # 13297Post Rezo »

Yes, I believe it does indirectly affect the body, although whether noise exposure affects the immune system, I do not know. But, noise can affect the aura, which is in the realm of the fluidic body, and that in turn affects the glands in the physiological body, which in turn * could * affect the immune system.

Perhaps GDV testing could conceivably determine which glands are affected from noise exposure, either while next to a computer laptop fan stand [not very loud], and without it on, or some other sound source, but attenuated [decreased]. Currently i think the GDV systems uses voltage applied to fingers, to look at the photo, and view its current state, when exposed to variety of factors. I'm not sure if noise was studied but I suspect it likely could have been thus far. But I wonder how accurate results were, and if or if not, a spectrum analyzer was involved.

I think Dr. Emoto did a water crystal experiment where he tested for noise and without, on the water samples, showing those exposed to the noise, had negative results. Unfortunately i cant recall exactly the experiment, feel free to post if one can find it.

Astral body at this date I still think has not been successfully measured or imaged. Some meditators have produced photos of the blue glow, and perhaps some photos of this glow are photo artifacts, but maybe some are genuine. Perhaps we are a ways off until this is better understood.

Epigenetics is certainly a huge factor, I agree. Zark you explained this very well, thank you!
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Re: Losing our immune systems

Post: # 13299Post Sparrow »

I can’t recall if I read it in the book or if it came up in one of Michel’s lectures, but I thought Thao mentioned we started losing our immune systems after the atomic bombs. This was the reason that the greys came to Earth as it is already happening on their planet. They did the implants so as to monitor the situation, kind of like performing a long term study to see if it will give them insights into their situation. Correct me if I’m mistaken :) I’m sure a lot of the subjects have already passed away so I ponder what kind of data they might have collected in that time and whether they intend on coming back to continue their experiment.
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