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visionary wrote:How many lifetimes old is Michel Desmarquet? (Sorry I forgot, but I think it's 80-something)
As Rezo has already answered, he is 81 "lifetimes" old. I'm not sure if that is an actual sum total though...probably is.
What is so significant about this soul age?
I think it is as Rezo mentioned. It is an important number, for reasons which we can not yet comprehend. Perhaps mathematical?
Simply put, Michel is probably at a turning point in his intellectual evolution. Perhaps he is "leveling up" so to speak...but that depends on quite a number of variables. I think though regardless of the variables, when one has reached that number-there is a mandatory and traditional process that takes place which I believe the "my former lives" chapter shows, partially anyhow, what this process entails. I still wonder if Arki and Michel share higher selves and if visiting a 'soul mate' to exchange information(as Tom cleverly puts it) is part of this process as well. I need to think more about this because I had much more to it...I will be happy to go into more detail when I get the book back from a friend. =)
What are new souls created from? Recycled astral vibrations maybe?
Ahh I see you are asking about the actual physical process? This I haven't thought about much. But it definitely makes sense that it has something to do with vibrations...since our intellect are vibrations as well. I lack quite a bit of scientific knowledge to explain this. But in a more simply manner, I think Tom Chalko said that they are created in the same way that Great Intellect came to existence. Out of an awareness of being(a pertubance of nothing...) If this question really boggles you, which I admit that it is a bit hard to comprehend as I have NO IDEA where new souls come from. I would recommend looking up a few topics in TFOC forums, or reading The Freedom Of Choice http://bioresonant.com/cgi-bin/htmlos.cgi/002595.5.0830059275 by Tom Chalko if you haven't already. Search for a topic called "Imagining Something New" here http://www.bioresonant.com/cgi-bin/star ... forum.html (it seems that providing direct links to topics in that forum didn't work for Rezo so it would be best to search for key words), or try a search for 'new souls' which should bring up a topic called Perturbing Nothing...both which seem related to your question...
What about the Golden Doko?
What about it? What exactly are you asking? I think it glowed gold because it reflects clearly the evolutionary development of the intellects who reside in it. By this logic one can assume that the Thaori are highly advanced in every aspect, including physical, spritual, and other domains which we are unaware of
What is the universe's final goal, if there is one?
This is a good question. Are you referring simply to the manifestation of GI's imagination(Great Intellect/GOD), this "playground", this learning environment? Or are you reffering to both, the previously mentioned, the GI and the intellects within it? If you are referring to both... I have pondered this same question. What I came to conclusion coincides with what Rezo says, and with what I am sure Tom would say. Going into this topic would actually take several books, there is a lot to, important details are likely to be left out, but here is my attempt at a VERY BRIEF summary(You can find an amazing summary by Tom Chalko in his book on the websites I provide in this post). It's goal/purpose(call it what you will) is the very same as the Great Intellect's and ours as well. When we all come to a point in our development we realize the purpose of our conscious existence, as well as GI's...and the purpose and benefit of a learning environment. To develop our intellect to the highest extent possible(if there is such a limit that the word extent implies) which as a result will allow us to feel and understand the highest feelings that we can imagine(such as Love, Peace, Harmony, and joy)...an ultimate quest for truth, understanding, enlightenment, awareness, etc. It logically makes sense. But a so called 'final goal' for us, GI, and this material reality...it is actually hard for intellects at our low level of development to comprehend or imagine such. Is there even a feeling higher than love, or even joy? That is beyond me, the best thing I can do before thinking about that is to FIRST understand to the best of my ability love and joy-these are feelings that I am currently aware of. It's never wise to try advanced algebra when I have yet to master or even understand the basics of arithmetics and why the numbers work the way they do. It is best to not constipate my intellect, to not get ahead of myself, this applies to anyone. The best thing you can do, is to understand YOUR own final goal first, ask yourself this question..."What is MY final Goal?"...you may find the answer- if you are ready to hear it- if not you may be lead to something else that needs to be understood FIRST. Should you find the answer to the question, if it is asked at the appropriate time, logically that answer is also true for GI and everyone else in the universe(except the journey is specifically tailored of course)...I have yet to ask this question myself. Thanks for bringing this up! Anyways, this universe as I mentioned is a learning environment for US. It has gone through many trials and errors, 'debugging', to get to where it is today...eventually it's existence will 'expire' and a new one will have to be created. This new existence will be a MUCH improved version based on knowledge learned from the previous. It's like an upgrade, if you will. I think for better detail on this you should look within Tom's forums for a topic called "End of this Universe". I don't know if this link will work but here is a direct link to the topic http://bioresonant.com/cgi-bin/htmlos.cgi/002601.2.7559976879
Why did the parallel universe seem so odd?
Probably because it IS odd. It is an accident of nature as I think is mentioned. I myself wonder about this parallel universe...is it a false copy or shadow of our planet? It did sound a bit like hell, or a purgatory, as Michel mentions. If anyone else can throw some ideas, that would be cool?
Is there an infinite number of universes outside our own?
I too have wondered this...but once again I think this is trying to go TOO far, questioning TOO FAR AHEAD of yourself. But I have also wondered, this. Once again I am not sure if we are pondering the same thing though...these are the questions I've pondered which seem a bit similar to what you ask. Are there other Great Intellects out there? Is our GI just part of some even bigger picture? I think it is mentioned somewhere(either in TFOC(book/forums) or in ThiaooubaProphecy) that our entire universe is actually only ONE atom...how many other atoms are out there? Once again I think it is better to concentrate on OUR EXISTENCE within THIS atom.
MACROEVOLUTION NOT REAL?! HOW CAN THIS BE? AND IS THIS A STATED FACT IN THE BOOK? (if so, where?)
Well there is a recent post on the same forums I have mentioned regarding this question, called Creation or Evolution. Once again here is the Forum http://www.bioresonant.com/cgi-bin/start.cgi/forum/forum.html
Feel free to post other questions pertaining to Thiaoouba Mysteries, because I'm sure there're tons, whether they are related to the soul, ultimate reality, history, the sciences, etc.
visionary wrote:Alright...where to start? Well, I have read The Thiaoouba "Prophecy" (I don't know why they call it a prophecy) and The Freedom of Choice.
You don't sound very fond of either books! It is suggested to read both several times because I always find something new and interesting in each read, or I find certain concepts easier to understand. Of course this kind of thing applies to anything. Anyhow, here is a definition of a Prophecy from http://www.dictionary.com. I think if you read the definition, regardless of whether or not you think you know what the word means, it will help you understand why the word suits the title of the book well. proph·e·cy Audio Help /ˈprɒfəsi/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[prof-uh-see] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
–noun, plural -cies.
1. the foretelling or prediction of what is to come.
2. something that is declared by a prophet, esp. a divinely inspired prediction, instruction, or exhortation.
3. a divinely inspired utterance or revelation: oracular prophecies.
4. the action, function, or faculty of a prophet.
3 is a good one. As I'm sure you have noticed that Thao(among the Thaori as well), actually do utter a revelation. They have foretold the future of earth if things continue the way they were back when Michel was brought aboard for the journey toward truth. The journey of the "Red Pill".
I read these soon after finishing A New Earth, by Eckhart Tolle - which has changed my life (and that's an understatement). I'm only 16, but have always been curious about 'stuff like this', if you know what I mean. Before my enlightenment this past spring
I remember one time when I awoke from a dream, I felt enlightened because I at first had the impression that the dream was in fact reality, little did I know that I was in fact asleep. It is a strange thing to realize that just a few moments ago you were in a world you thought to be real, but you were actually asleep the entire time. Yet after realizing that, I also realized that I forgot the dream and as a result learned nothing from the experience at all. What did your "enlightenment" entail? I am interested to hear! I think I heard a monk say once that TRUE enlightenment takes quite a while. But who knows if they are right. I guess that depends on one's definition of enlightenment and to the extent that they feel "awakened". ,
I had no discernment in these matters - matters of spiritual/psychic/universal, etc. Now I do. I've had many visions, dreams, and psychic experiences since then. I can see very clearly now.
I had gradually become very sensitive to what appeared to be a reddish fire that surrounded each of my family members (4). The fire behaved differently with each one, depending on their state of fear, I guess. I had never heard of anything like this, and what it reminded me of was the northern lights. So I googled 'aura' and 'colors', not expecting to find what I was hoping for. But lo and behold, I discovered this was something that many people are sensitive to and that it is natural to those who are 'awakened'. The first site that had to do with the aura was a Thiaoouba site. One thing led to another, and before I knew it, I had read The Book and The Freedom of Choice. So that's how I learned about TP.
I think it is cool that your mind is more open. Perhaps you will come to a point when you realize how NORMAL it actually is to have these kind of things. These abilities have always been there, they have just been 'dormant' so to speak. IMO there really is nothing paranormal in this universe but our own lack of knowledge-aka ignorance. A lot of people actually have had these so called "psychic experiences" since they were born, few are brave enough to admit it for fear of being ridiculed by their family and friends... to me the outlook the majority of people have toward this reality of life is strange, that is the only thing I find paranormal haha. But logically I can't blame them you know, it is not completely their faults for seeing things this way! That story sounds very similar to the way I found the books. Have you learned anything new about auras and auric sight? It seems like you are very fond of that book by Eckhart. I have this biased feeling when I look at that book, it looks like one of those good reads while sipping your java @ Starbucks kind of read...those kind of books that pose as "spiritual enlightenment" make quite a bit of money...I mean just look at that book called "The Secret", one of the biggest marketing scams out there. Though I do believe there is bit of jewels to dig out of that book( I am sure the book you mention has it's own jewels of truth as well so I will check it out), it seems more that the lady knew psychologically how to exploit people(ex. hence the clever name "The Secret")
Thanks for your detailed responses. I'll try to look at all the links when I can.
I meant anything about the Golden Doko. It is something that seems very important to me. When Thao said no one from Arki's planet would ever reside in it, I thought that was quite bold and authoritative. That really made me ponder the beings that were in there and their purpose. It gives me chills. But I guess we won't know the truth behind the Golden Doko unless incarnated as a Thiaoouban in a future life... I assume that because of how advanced they are in their intellectual & spiritual development(if those 2 are even separate) the people in there probably have permanent responsibility to reside in their until they choose to go back to the Source(GI) again. It takes quite a number of lifetimes to even make it to that planet, who knows how much effort of development it takes to make it to such a responsible position as the Thaori. It does sound as if Thao is talking down upon the people of Arki's planet though(one which at one point was quite similar to ours)
In reference to the next question I had, (these are all questions to start a discussion, and not necessarily questions I don't have answers to myself)
Yes and the discussion has begun. I just thought it was necessary to mention that a discussion can and often does turn into an argument for intellects who try to comprehend something that is out of their level of understanding. You asked great questions, but to really get something out of that we need quite a bit of knowledge to prevent speculation from turning into an argument just because someone disagrees, whereas no one actually knows.
I had a vision one day of zooming out of this whole universe, and for a while the universe just got smaller and smaller, with nothing but darkness around it in all directions. But then, other dots of universes appeared around ours. They were all moving like little cells in relation to each other. No movement was random. It seemed like they were all choosing to move certain ways. As I zoomed out further, these little universes were yet a smaller part of a greater system, and the greater system was part of a mega universe, and the mega universe was part of something even greater. There was no end. I am not suggesting that we are one of God's literal cells, but that is a good comparison. What I got out of that vision was that this reality is infinite in every way - spacial and timewise. There is no goal or end to this, as much as we would like there to be out of our own selfish nature for something better.
I am very sorry that you feel this way. Is this what your "enlightenment" has brought you? I bet if ants had the intellect it would take to comprehend how big just the yard is that their anthills are in, they too would feel their is no goal or end to the yard. The yard is very big, but that does not mean it has a purpose. Children can play back their, families can have barbecues back there, dogs can play, gardens can be grown, the purpose is limited to your imagination...if you think there is no purpose...there probably will be none and that backyard will go to waste and the grass will probably die. I think that in time, once you begin to understand what this vision actually meant...you will see it is quite the opposite. Would you create something with no purpose, for no reason at all? Does that sound logical to you? People seem selfish at first, until you see them as they are. What is so selfish about realizing the logic behind existence having a purpose?
Macroevolution is large scale evolution, as microevolution is small scale/cellular. I have been emailing Mr. Meanwell, and he says that macroevolution is simply not real, but micro is. I used to be a zealous Christian, and did not know what to think about evolution. After enlightenment,
I am not trying to be mean but please be careful when you consider yourself "enlightened". Once again this depends on one's definition and application of the word based upon the chosen definition. But for the most part, enlightenment is an ONGOING process of learning. I think it was Bruce Lee(Jun Fan(sp?)) who said something along these lines, "Man is constantly learning and growing, but when he is bound by a pattern, a set way of thinking, man stops growing" (apologies for this quote is not exact and is mostly paraphrased by me). There are people out there who have closed their mind more than clearing it because they felt they were too enlightened to learn anything new and they felt better than other people. It is easy to misjudge a strong high feeling for something else, because it feels so good and right. I am not saying that you did not actually obtain enlightenment, because I actually have no idea...I don't even know you. Enlightenment can take a life time for some people, and even when you think you see things as they are sometimes you still miss something. There is always something new to learn, as long as you empty your teacup you will always be able to taste new tea, no matter how good the last cup tasted it is best to try the others as well. (unless you don't prefer tea haha) I recognized it for its beauty and Godly process. The inner always affects the outer. I don't think TP discredited evolution; it just said that our conscious human species on THIS planet came from somewhere else. The book said quite a bit more than that, and I feel you might have missed some important concepts in there.
This doesn't mean that evolution is not real at all! In our Earthly case, our biological species were just migrating. That is not to say that we didn't evolve somewhere else in this universe. I also think that spiritual and physical evolution go very much hand in hand.
I think that at the end of that sentence you have a good idea. You really should search the forums for tom's expression on his own idea of evolution, it might help you to understand-but you don't have to accept it just be open.
I'll be hoping to hear back soon!
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Page 64 wrote:He stopped just above and in front of me, placing both his hands on my head; the thumbs joined on my forehead above my nose, opposite the pineal gland, and
the fingers joined at the top of my head. It was Thao who described these details to me later, for at the time, I was overwhelmed by such a sensation, that the details didn’t register.
During the time his hands were on my head, it seemed that my body no longer existed. A gentle warmth and delicate perfume originated within me, emanating in waves and blending with soft music that was barely audible.
Page 116 wrote:The central figure rose by levitation, without altering his position, and slowly floated towards me. He stopped before and slightly above me, placing one of his
hands at the base of my cerebellum and the other on the left side of my skull. Again, I felt my body invaded by the fluid-like feeling of well-being, but this time I almost fainted. Removing his hands, he returned to his seat.
Robanan wrote:Ironically, it seems like a non-believer and non Christian made it to the "closet" of the Christ and made it back to tell us the story. I think there's a lesson in that too...
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