Repercussion of British colonization - the Bengal Famine

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Repercussion of British colonization - the Bengal Famine

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History as written not by winners of wars, but the people who suffered. Please read http://www.samarthbharat.com/bengalholocaust.htm
Sixty years after the end of the war, time has come to reopen the case and institute a fresh Nuremberg trial - this time against one of the prosecuting nations -- Great Britain -- for systematic and intentional murder of millions of people. This genocide was not confined to the Second World War. In fact, only its last episode was played out during the war. The ghastly genocide, which used hunger and starvation as tools, lasted for about eighteen decades and was carried out in Bengal, India (at present Bengal is partly in India and partly in Bangladesh) by the British colonial masters claiming about thirty million victims.
BTW, Bomohwkl, is this issue mentioned in "The British Empire In Colour" DVD?
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Most Bristish nowsaday are ashamed of past colonization and imperialism. As a matter of fact the period of Bristish colonization is not taught in British secondary school anymore.
There are a lot of consequences of imperialism.
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Post: # 7296Post Aisin »

Good to hear that they're not taking pride in that part of their history.

But not teaching that in school is totally another issue. It can mean that certain people are trying to indirectly hide the history, or make it forgotten over time, and then the consequence is people won't be learning from their past mistake.

Even if they're teaching it, it also depends on how they're teaching it, either with pride, or as a caution for people not to repeat the mistake. Anyhow, history textbooks are just people's perception of what really happened. So many incidents transpired, so many people involved, how is it possible for a few persons to accurately summarize what happened?

As far as I know, the Japan occupation of China & South East Asia is not really taught in school history textbooks as well. And many China nationals are not pleased with that.

I seriously don't think it's a good idea that history of British colonization period is omitted from history text in UK.
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Post: # 7297Post bomohwkl »

Most British people know how 'great' it was their country before. Although imperialism is not taught in school, there are so many history books around in the bookshops that cover such period.

Nuremberg trial is not covered in the DVD. It is just a glimpse of 150 years of history of British Empire in 2 hours movie. It also describes the consequences of British Empire. It fact, because of this, British has become more humane. There are so many charity shops and organizations in UK which I could hardly find one in Malaysia.

It would be a surprise for people from a commonwealth country to visit London. You will see a multi-national and racial city. At 21st centuary, the British are not a race but a gathering of countless different races (more so than in Malaysia). Yellow, white, black, christian, muslim, jewish, hindu..... A real 'rojak'.

Interestingly, the change of English into Malay as a medium of learning during the beginning of Malaysia independence was a way to detach itself from imperialism period. That'a has caused some unwanted consequences in Malaysia.

Nowsadays, imperialism takes a new form in terms of economy motivated by greed, power and money. Surprisingly, the technological think tanks in USA are Chinese and foreign immigrants.
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I think UK 'open door' policy asylum seeks and immigrants in the past was kind of link to 'guilt' they have had in the past imperialism.
This has resulted in a complex issue.
I will quote some paragrahs from the Daily Mail on certain problems facing Britain as a result of the past.
Ruth Kelly yesterday broke with decades of Labour support for multiculturalism. The Communities Secretary admitted the Government's attempts to avoid imposing a single Britrish identity and culture could have led to communities living in 'isolation' from each other. It made her the first Cabinet Minister to question the idea that different faiths races should not beforced to intergrate but be allowed to maintain their own cultures. Her speech marked the launch of a commission on 'community cohesion' charged with improving links between groups and tackling extremism. bla..bla..
Ironically, past British Imperialist had used the racial segregation to control people in Malaya.

Moving away from Imperialism and with the diminishing power Britian in Commonwealth, Britain attempts to integrate into Europe. This results in a sudden increase of influx from Eastern Europe.
Britian'sd population has passed 60million for the first time pushed up by record levels of immigrantion. The rate of expansion is faster than any time since early 1960s whenthe post 2nd world war baby boom was at its height. The evidence of the scale of immigration comes at a time of deepining concern over the tension between ethnic and cultural groups and the impact of migrant workersonwages and unemployment. Another wave is likely soon. The Romanian government estimates 350000 will emigrate if the doors are opened to them whenthe country joins the EU next year. Bla..bla..

This will eventually push the already crazy high house price in UK.Intergeneration of mortgage is on the bank list.

The education system is always going down.
A daming set of education on figures crept out on the day that record-breaking GCSE results were revealed. Four in ten children have failed to master three Rs by the time they kleave primary school, the government admitted yesterday.
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Re: Repercussion of British colonization - the Bengal Famine

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Ruth Kelly yesterday broke with decades of Labour support for multiculturalism. The Communities Secretary admitted the Government's attempts to avoid imposing a single Britrish identity and culture could have led to communities living in 'isolation' from each other.
Why should British identity and British culture be forced on other races and cultures who wish to keep their heritage, customs, traditions and culture after choosing to immigrate in order to live in a free country like Britain?
It made her the first Cabinet Minister to question the idea that different faiths races should not beforced to intergrate but be allowed to maintain their own cultures.
Sounds good to me. Why should everybody be forced to integrate and become one? This causes even more conflict, tension, and resistance.
A daming set of education on figures crept out on the day that record-breaking GCSE results were revealed. Four in ten children have failed to master three Rs by the time they kleave primary school, the government admitted yesterday.
A decrease in the quality of education with an increase in immigration of people who can't speak English? How surprising. The education system will keep going down at this rate. On the bright side racism, crime, poverty and disease have gone up.
There are a lot of consequences of imperialism.
I agree, colonization/imperialism is wrong, and often does more harm than good to the colonizer/imperialist in the end.
Most Bristish nowsaday are ashamed of past colonization and imperialism.
Guilt and being ashamed of past colonization, imperialism and the actions of your ancestors is frequently taught and encouraged. In American schools, they fully teach and emphasize the suffering of blacks/Native Americans/all other groups under the evil, oppressive whites. Multiculturalism is beautiful, integration must be achieved through force because this will bring world peace (despite human nature), the actions of your ancestors (in which you had no say) still curse us to this day, and any kind of pride in your heritage and culture is wrong. :-$
As a matter of fact the period of Bristish colonization is not taught in British secondary school anymore.
The atomic bombing of Japan is not fully touched on in American schools. Japan teaches the sanitized, pro-American version of the bombing as well. The Ukrainian famine and the genocide of millions of its inhabitants, as well as millions of Russians in their own country - under Communism - is not taught in Russian schools. I'm sure the genocide of Palestinians by the Israeli army is not taught in Israeli schools either.
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