Interview with Michel from 1995

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Interview with Michel from 1995

Post: # 217Post Vesko »

In 2000 while searching the net, I came across an interview with Michel Desmarquet. As far as I know, this is the only written one in existence. At the time, Tom Chalko confirmed that those are the exact words of Michel, and told me that he'd archive it on his site. I don't see it there, that is why I post it here. A search I just made convinced me that the interview has disappeared from the original online space in the interim (actually it was available on more than one site). So here it shows up again.

A local copy is stored in a separate file here.
Another copy with preserved formatting as it was published can be found here.
Creative Loafing, August 20, 1995

PARADIGMS
By Cliff Bostock

Few phenomena of popular culture are as hard to explain as
alleged encounters with UFOs and extraterrestrials. Although
literally millions of people lay claim to such experiences,
nobody has ever produced any convincing proof.

Of course, the U.S. Government is blamed for covering up
sightings and incidents like the alleged crash of a space ship
in Roswell, N.M., in the '40s. Individuals often blame the lack
of evidence on the superior intelligence and technology of the
aliens themselves. The current issue of _Yoga Journal_, for
example, includes a story about Steven Greer, the Asheville MD
who claims regularly to elicit contacts with UFOs through
technology and meditation. The author, Keith Thompson (whose
book _Angels and Aliens_ is a study of UFOs as mythic phenomena)
tells the story of a powerful contact ... in which all cameras
on the site are shut down by a craft's electromagnetic field.

Recently, a French emigrant to Australia, Michel Desmarquet, has
been in Atlanta promoting his book, _Abduction to the 9th
Planet_ (Arafura Publishing). Mr. Desmarquet, a landscape
architect, claims that he was physically abducted not merely to
a spacecraft, but to another planet, Thiaoouba, billions of
miles away in another galaxy. There, he says, he was given
answers and explanations to physical and spiritual mysteries
under the tutelage of Thao, a 10-foot-tall woman, who instructed
him to write his book.

I interviewed Mr. Desmarquet, who speaks in a very heavy French
accent, recently and attended a lecture by him at The
Wishfulfilling Tree, a bookstore. He is by all appearances
completely sincere and seemed wounded when I told him I found
his story "incredible." The following interview is extracted
from my own meeting with him and from questions posed him by
audience members following his talk.

You were abducted?

Yes, I woke up at half past midnight June 26, 1987. I was in a
completely strange state -- refreshed like I'd had a full
night's sleep but also I felt as if I'd been divided into two
people. One part of me seemed to watch the other part. I got
dressed, wrote a note to my wife, telling her that I would be
away for 10 days and that she need not worry. Then I went
outside. Everything was washed in blue light. The next thing I
know, I am being lifted into the sky. I think I am dreaming, of
course, but I am told I am not. I wonder who is speaking to me.
Then I noticed I am being lifted by a very tall woman, Thao.

Why were you chosen for this experience?

Of course, I asked that as soon as we got on board the ship,
which, by the way, was a perfect sphere and looked nothing like
a flying saucer. They explained to me that I am in my 81st
lifetime, which is unusual. They told me I would have to write
my story and I said I am not a writer. They said that was good,
because I would not be inclined to embellish it. I said, "Well,
then, you need a journalist" and Thao said journalists on our
planet would only sensationalize the story.

Mr. Desmarquet, I'm going to focus here not so much on your
experience, which people can read about in your book, but on
your claim itself. Did these people give you anything to prove
to us that you were abducted?

No! I asked the Thaori for a piece of metal, something that
does not exist on earth and they said, "We could give you that
but then your scientists would just claim that an alchemist
created it." They told me that when people read my book -- and
people should read it three times --they will realize I am
speaking the truth. I am a landscape architect without a lot of
education. I don't know anything about these things they told
me.

That of course would constitute proof too. Did the Thaori
explain something to you for which we have no explanation here?
Did they give you a cure for a disease or even a new spiritual
technology?

Well, they told me all about the astral body, for example. I
met seven masters who could hardly keep their physical bodies in
place around their astral bodies ....

But the notion of an astral body is nothing new to our planet.
People have been writing about that for centuries. It seems to
me that if these people are so advanced and wanted to really
help our planet, they would have new information to offer that
could be verified. At the very least, one would expect a
completely new inflection of ancient mysteries.

They told me about the lost continent of Mu and explained the
Easter Island statues to me. They even told me that God created
man because He wanted some means of physical sensation for
Himself.

But that too is information we can't verify. Such information
can be imagined, like fiction. What convinces you that you
weren't in the grip of an hallucination?

Well, for one thing, Thao gave me a large bruise, but mainly I
just know that what happened was real.

And how did you pass through billions of miles in a few days?

We entered through a parallel universe. They created a space
like the Bermuda Triangle, which is an opening to a parallel
universe beyond time. You see, I had never heard of such ideas
as a parallel universe before this time.

Did you have an interest in UFOs and extraterrestrials before
your abduction?

No! When people would speak of such things, I would smile. I
did not think it was impossible, but I thought it was probably
not so.

I wonder how your wife reacted when you showed up 10 days later,
saying that you'd been abducted.

She did not believe me. She was sure that I had been with
another woman. But, finally, after a couple of months she said
that she knew me well enough to know that I would not lie. My
son, who is interested in spiritual things, had no trouble
believing me. They showed me all of my past lives. This was
mainly a spiritual experience, I think.

Did they explain to you why so many people are being abducted
and seeing UFOs?

Well, I hate to say this, but that is rubbish. They explained
to me that it is possible to have collective hallucinations. I
understand there are nearly 5 million people who claim to have
been abducted and implanted with something. They said that no
more than 100 people in all of time have been actually abducted.
When people tell me they have been abducted, I smile and I'm
polite, but usually I know it is not true.

So you are convinced that your abduction is real while most
others are not?

Yes, I know how it sounds. I am only repeating what they tell
me.

What do these people think of us?

They are appalled by our materialism and the way we treat the
planet.

Why are they here? Do they ever intercede?

They are not police. They are very loving beings who want to
help and they have interceded. Sometimes they will nudge us. For
example, during World War II, they gave a nudge to the Americans
in the discovery of the atomic bomb. The Nazis were very close
and they did not want for them to get it. They believe in free
will and know that communism, fascism, all forms of
totalitarianism, are bad for men. So, they support America.

(From an audience member): It is surprising that they should
necessarily favor America. This has been a very fascist country,
during the '50s, for example, in the McCarthy period.

I do not think so! America, fascist? No, I do not think so.

How was returning?

I did not wish to come back. It was like returning from
paradise. And, of course, I did not like having to go public
with this story. People think you are crazy, but I was
instructed to write this book. It took three years to get a
publisher. Everyone wanted to change it, but I couldn't allow
that. I didn't channel it, but Thao was there with me when I
wrote it.

So, summarily, what is the most important information they gave
you?

That we should not look to religion or politics, but inside
ourselves. Inside, through meditation and the higher self, we
can communicate with the creator at any time.
In 2003 I emailed the interviewer, Cliff Bostock, who from my investigations is an honest journalist (there are other articles of his online). I asked him whether he remembered Michel and his book. I got no reply.
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Post: # 218Post Meedan »

I remember finding this interview a long time ago. I was very concerned by Michel saying that 'they support America', and not understanding that America has been fascist. I emailed Tom about this and he replied that this shows 'how little Michel can understand', 'he is a messenger'.

I also asked about Michel's statement: "They said that no more than 100 people in all of time have been actually abducted."
This seemed to contradict what Michel said about the greys having implanted 150,000. Tom replied that the '100' refers to people being taken to another planet.
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Post: # 220Post Vesko »

Meedan wrote:This seemed to contradict what Michel said about the greys having implanted 150,000. Tom replied that the '100' refers to people being taken to another planet.
Both your sentences above are false. Do you remember your communication with Tom correctly? I've had similar and he said 100-150 from what I remember. Michel's words in Meanwell's interviews were similar.

Also it is written here, at http://www.thiaoouba.com/faq.htm , the Frequently Asked Questions for "Thiaoouba Prophecy":
Q. What about Grays and other aliens seen on Earth ?
A. There are some races of people on a similar level of mentality to ours, visiting us on Earth. Michel was given telepathic permission from Thiaoouba in 1995 to talk about Grays in front of TV cameras in the USA. Gray people are from a "planet of sorrows" too, and on their own planet they have completely lost their immune system, as a consequence of their "civilized" activities. Simply speaking they are going extinct very quickly.

They have the technology to come to Earth and they come here to watch the reactions of our immune system, because we just started loosing ours in 1948. They hope, that by observing our reactions they can help themselves. They have implanted about 150 people world-wide (not 5 million as some say) with monitoring devices. People from Thiaoouba watch this activity too and clearly say that there is no danger.
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Meedan wrote:I remember finding this interview a long time ago. I was very concerned by Michel saying that 'they support America', and not understanding that America has been fascist. I emailed Tom about this and he replied that this shows 'how little Michel can understand', 'he is a messenger'.
Tom has told me that Michel is very intelligent. However, Michel has somewhat limited education in certain fields -- he has had high school education and then professional training as a landscape architect. In that light, his statement "they support America" is completely understandable, but it is also partly true, if you make the comparison between America and fully totalitarian regimes. But yes, indeed it is evidence towards, I think the fact, that Michel could not write this book just like that. Nothing has been disproved in it, as Marcus said in another post.
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Post: # 222Post Meedan »

Yes thanks for the correction Vesko, I haven't got a clue why I wrote 150,000 :D
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Post: # 223Post Vesko »

No problem. That's why we are here -- to correct and help each other.
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Post: # 245Post Zark »

Hi vesko, I also saw some media releases for bioresonant.com and their chakra shirts. These were real audio movies. No interviews with Michel, but some interesting content none the less. The most interesting thing there was a drawing of a Thiaoouban shirt that would most certainly have been made by Michel Desmarquet. A copy of this drawing will be in Tom Chalko's possession.

Now that Michel is (apparently) living in Vietnam, maybe he will inspire some Vietnamese tailor to produce some beautiful silk chakra shirts :-)
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"Sometimes they will nudge us. For example, during World War II, they gave a nudge to the Americans in the discovery of the atomic bomb. The Nazis were very close and they did not want for them to get it. They believe in free will and know that communism, fascism, all forms of totalitarianism, are bad for men. So, they support America. "
hi Meedan and Vesko :-)
As well as understanding that this is a statement of Michel's opinion. I think we have to take this quote in context as well. The context in this case being WWII.

My opinion on America :
My understanding of history is far from perfect, but.. At the time of the WWII, when compared to the behaviour of Japan and Germany.. America was like a bunny rabbit in comparison to these very brutal aggressors.

But the governments of todays America are more and more being dominated and influenced by their military interests. This was not the case at the start of WWII. As I understand it, America initially did not want to get involved or interfere with the fighting that was going on in Europe. Prior to attacks made by Japan, America felt safe and secure in its isolation from the conflicts that were going on in other continents. The attacks on America made by Japan forced them to take on an aggressive posture.

Now that they have let fear dominate their thoughts and their governments, they are falling deeper and deeper. Once fear starts to take hold.....
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Post: # 247Post Meedan »

I agree Zark.
Zark wrote:Hi vesko, I also saw some media releases for bioresonant.com and their chakra shirts. These were real audio movies. No interviews with Michel, but some interesting content none the less.
I remember a radio interview with Tom on an older version of the bioresonant site, can't find it on the new site, wish I could hear that again. Does anyone know how I can?
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Post: # 260Post Marcus »

I remember a radio interview with Tom on an older version of the bioresonant site, can't find it on the new site, wish I could hear that again. Does anyone know how I can?
Me too. I remember for some reason there was a picture of a Fosters Beer. I've always wanted to know why the Fosters beer was displayed.
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Post: # 289Post Vesko »

To Meedan and Marcus:

I have uploaded the 2 videos at http://goldenplanetforum.com/library/chalko.
But nobody will be able to access them at this location YET since I've password-protected them. :roll: Lachie has volunteered to host the files at his site, just in case Tom thinks it's a problem... And I can't get a response from Tom -- perhaps he's overseas?
So Lachie will provide them from his site, and I am also able to e-mail them to you, too.
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Post: # 290Post Lachie »

Greetings, top 1% of the world!

Hehe. I've uploaded the two videos to my web host:

http://lachie.antissa.com/library/

I too have been unable to get a response from Tom - not that I can usually get a response, but i sent in a good question to the Freedom Forum and he hasn't posted it. When i send in other good questions they are usually posted within 48 hours.

There was an extended absence on Tom's behalf from the middle of last year until early this year. Perhaps he has gone away again?

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Post: # 298Post Zark »

Marcus Collins wrote:I remember for some reason there was a picture of a Fosters Beer. I've always wanted to know why the Fosters beer was displayed.
Ahhh, that beer can is in the file why.ram which I emailed vesko. The beer can occurs at about 2m:20sec and he is talking about the error of focussing too much on our physical body, and reminding us that it is so much more important for us to take good care of our psyche / conciousness..

Maybe he thought that the beer can was somehow symbolic of this, ie: alcohol and other drugs are damaging for our psyche..

hmm, dont know..
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Post: # 733Post Vesko »

I have edited my first post to include a PDF of the interview with preserved formatting, exactly as in the original article. The format was HTML, and I only converted it to PDF and added page numbers. The rest is exactly as it was. It can be found here. The source of this properly formatted version was different from the one for the plain text file, but it too cannot be found on the Net.
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I wathed the why video and I have just a question.. Ok you design something very nice, which is to assist people. He says in his video that it is a secret. Why does he keep it a secret...Don't tell me about the money because that will be gay! He will disprove him self over 1000 times :p At least from the point of view I see it. He wants to assist and he cares for us why doesn't he share the technology and his findings to help everyone and to make sure that the shirt will be around even after many many years? :)
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