Vimana -- Ancient Indian Aircraft

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Bastian
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Vimana -- Ancient Indian Aircraft

Post: # 74Post Bastian »

The following quotes deal with information sourced from India's ancient sanskrit texts. There are many ancient texts that deal with these aircrafts: Vaimanika Sastra, Samara Sutradhara, etc..

"Other lesser known texts include the Samarangana Sutra-dhara, the Yuktikalpataru of Bhoja ( 12th century A.D.) the Mayamatam (attributed to the architect Maya celebrated in the Mahabharata), the Rig Veda, the Yajurveda and the Ataharvaveda."

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"Strong and durable must the body be made, like a great flying bird, of light material. Inside it one must place the Mercury-engine with its iron heating apparatus beneath. By means of the power latent in the mercury which sets the driving whirlwind in motion, a man sitting inside may travel a great distance in the sky in a most marvelous manner."

"The Ramayana describes a vimana as a double-deck, circular (cylindrical) aircraft with portholes and a dome. It flew with the speed of the wind and gave forth a melodious sound (a humming noise?). Ancient Indian texts on Vimanas are so numerous it would take several books to relate what they have to say. The ancient Indians themselves wrote entire flight manuals on the control of various types of Vimanas, of which there were basically four: the Shakuna Vimana, the Sundara Vimana, the Rukma Vimana and the Tripura Vimana."

"The Vaimanika Sastra is perhaps the most important ancient text on Vimanas known to exist. It was first reported to have been found in 1918 in the Baroda Royal Sanskrit Library. Baroda is located north of Bombay and south of Ahmedabad in Gujerat. No earlier copies have been reported, however, Swami Dayananda Saraswati in his comprehensive treatise on the Rig Veda dated 1875 references the Vaimanaik Sastra in his commentary, as well as other manuscripts on Vimanas."

http://www.atlantisrising.com/issue10/a ... ntavi.html
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Post: # 75Post Bastian »

Here are some great quotes from the ancient text the Mahabharata.

The following is quoted from : http://www.mystae.com/restricted/stream ... imana.html
I highly recommend you visit this URL, as it also deals with ancient Korean and Chinese texts, as well as attempting to examining the details of the technology.

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There is this account by the hero Krishna that is suggestive of more modern weapons. As he takes to the skies in pursuit of Salva:
"His Saubha clung to the sky at a league's length...He threw at me rockets, missiles, spears, spikes, battle-axes, three-bladed javelins, flame-throwers, without pausing....The sky...seemed to hold a hundred suns, a hundred moons...and a hundred myriad stars. Neither day nor night could be made out, or the points of compass."
- The Mahabharata

Later, when Saubha becomes invisible, Krishna relates:

"I quickly laid on an arrow, which killed by seeking out sound, to kill them...All the Danavas [troops in Salva's army] who had been screeching lay dead, killed by the blazing sunlike arrows that were triggered by sound."
- The Mahabharata
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Post: # 76Post Bastian »

quoted from the same site as the last post. Here is the text in the Mahabharata that seems to deal with a nuclear weapon:

"Gurkha, flying in his swift and powerful Vimana, hurled against the three cities of the Vrishnis and Andhakas a single projectile charged with all the power of the Universe. An incandescent column of smoke and flame as bright as the thousand suns rose in all its splendour...An iron thunderbolt, a gigantic messenger of death, which reduced to ashes the entire race of the Vrishnis and the Andhakas....The corpses were so burned as to be unrecognizable. The hair and nails fell out; pottery broke without apparent cause, and the birds turned white....After a few hours all foodstuffs were infected.... To escape from this fire, the soldiers threw themselves in streams to wash themselves and their equipment..."
- The Mahabharata
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"When the Rishi City of Mohenjodaro was excavated by archaeologists in the last century, they found skeletons just lying in the streets, some of them holding hands, as if some great doom had suddenly overtaken them. These skeletons are among the most radioactive ever found, on a par with those found at Hiroshima and Nagasaki."
"Futhermore, at Mohenjo-Daro, a well planned city laid on a grid, with a plumbing system superior to those used in Pakistan and India today, the streets were littered with 'black lumps of glass'. These globs of glass were discovered to be clay pots that had melted under intense heat! "
- D. Hatcher Childress, "Ancient Indian Aircraft Technology"
In The Anti-Gravity Handbook

There is another account of such a weapon:

"Cuka, flying on board a high-powered vimana, hurled on to the triple city a single projectile charged with all the power of the universe. An incandescent column of smoke and flame, as bright as ten thousand suns, rose in all the splendor... When the vimana returned to Earth, it looked like a splendid block of antimony resting on the ground."
- Mausola Purva
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Post: # 406Post Vesko »

I think that usage of atomic warfare could have ocurred somewhere after the people of the planet started rapidly degrading once again after the sinking of Mu and Atlantis, the sources of knowledge and wisdom in relatively recent history. After all, Mu had some colonies in India and the colonisers could have left something there as a result of the sudden cataclysms destroying the motherland and the primary colony, Atlantis.
According to information in David Childress' other excellent book, "Lost Cities of Ancient Lemuria and the Pacific", the first inhabitants of India, the Dravids, were the faction (according to the view of the Lemurian Fellowship organization) that emigrated from Mu because of this faction's total spiritual focus (they were in a spiritual extreme, possessing no balancing material knowledge), and we can make the connection that this was the faction at whose time such vimanas were present. Childress entertains the thought that (East) Indians at the time flew routinely around the Pacific and elsewhere.
Whether there was ever such emigration, it is not mentioned explicitly in Michel's book but emigrations as part of colonising efforts of people from Mu (Mayas and Nagas) are mentioned, but regardless, mass flying from India proposed by Childress seems unlikely since according to Michel's book people of Mu experienced great difficulties colonising India and New Guinea. Any mass flying with vimanas must have not been, as Childress wrote, from India to the Pacific (Mu), but rather vice versa (from colonisers to colonists), since it seems improbable that colonisers would spread such technology to the colonists for the latter to cruise around and drop bombs -- remember how the book said that the civilization of Mu kept advanced technology to themselves for security purposes?
Those difficulties were so great that they necessitated the visitation of the Thiaooubans -- Thao even says that the vessels that they used for the visit were not spherical, but different in shape -- more like the saucers in the Indian epics; the vimanas were not spherical..
Anyway, I mention Childress only on the side; in any case vimanas are likely those flying ships from Mu and Atlantis, perpetuated in mythology.
But what of the bomb? Could it be that the nuclear / hydrogen bomb / similar warfare (we suppose this happened due to the findings of numerous radioactive skeletons in Mohenjo-Daro, a major Indus site, mentioned by Bastian in a previous post) was used at the time of the war between the Nagas and the Maya-Atlanteans? See those quotes is from the book (notice the emphasis in bold):
"The Maya-Atlanteans were not the only ones to explore and colonise. Gone for thousands of years, the Nagas had colonised Burma, India and finally they reached the shores of Egypt, at about the latitude of the Tropic of Cancer. They too, founded a successful colony and occupied upper Egypt. Both groups of colonisers introduced similar sorts of improvements. The Nagas established a large town called Mayou, on the banks of the Red Sea. The natives of the region went to their schools, gradually becoming assimilated with the colonists and producing the Egyptian race.
However, about 5000 years ago, the Nagas in the north of Egypt and the Maya-Atlanteans began fighting for a reason that is quite ludicrous. The Atlanteans, whose religion differed significantly from the religion of Mu, believed in the reincarnation of the soul (Astral body) in the country of its ancestors. Thus, they claimed that the soul travelled westward to where they had come from. The Nagas held a similar belief except that they claimed the soul went back to the east, since they had come from the east.
For two years they were actually at war over this difference but it was not a terribly cruel war, as both groups comprised of fundamentally peace loving people, and eventually they became allied and formed a unified Egypt."
At first glance it seems so. The only big mystery that remains is that it has not been a "terribly cruel war", and that "both groups comprised of fundamentally peace loving people", so that most certainly excludes usage of atomic bombs. However, it all happened only 5,000 ago and fits with my thoughts that such irresponsible nuclear blasts could have happened only after the gradual start of degradation following 14,500 years ago after disappearance of Mu and Atlantis, and never before that. The Mahabharata and the Ramayana epics (as well as others less known) could very well have been pieced from sightseeing of flying craft from Mu and Thiaoouba and learning about atomic blasts that occurred by silly usage of residual advanced arms during a relatively recent conflict -- probably not 5,000 years ago, but in another conflict around that time.
Or could it be that the radioactive skeletons and green glass were not due to human-made atomic bomb, but something else, and those Indian epics were mostly the products of the belligerent and overworked imagination of Indian writers, stimulated from legends about the Thiaoouban visits?

Note: Edited with slight corrections on March 2, 2005.
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Post: # 803Post Guest »

To be honest, sometimes the truth just is so wierd regarding our past. I think to figure somethings out with just logical speculation. May be beyond us.
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