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Does anyone have any comments on Michel's statements above, I'd love to either confirm or solve this 'problem'.Meedan wrote:We know that Thiaoouba Prophecy is a coherent book, but Michel's statements about his experience that he makes outside of the book often seem to be problematic.
This is a quote from one of the interviews he did (we discussed things from it in another post also), found at http://goldenplanetforum.com/library/de ... 0_1995.txt :
...and this is from Thiaoouba Prophecy: (emphasis mine)Did you have an interest in UFOs and extraterrestrials before
your abduction?
No! When people would speak of such things, I would smile. I
did not think it was impossible, but I thought it was probably
not so.
Anyone?I had often spoken with friends of ‘flying saucers’ and was persuaded that they did, in fact, exist - but when you are actually faced with the reality, so many questions cloud your brain that you think it will burst.
Of course, when you are burst with thousands of unaswered questions and contradictions and self-verification is a problem too.................that's one hint thattell whether the story they are telling is true or not or useful for self-development. Of course, UFO exists but whether strory told by friends of ‘flying saucers’ is true or not is another matter!Quote:
Did you have an interest in UFOs and extraterrestrials before
your abduction?
No! When people would speak of such things, I would smile. I
did not think it was impossible, but I thought it was probably
not so.
...and this is from Thiaoouba Prophecy: (emphasis mine)
Quote:
I had often spoken with friends of ‘flying saucers’ and was persuaded that they did, in fact, exist - but when you are actually faced with the reality, so many questions cloud your brain that you think it will burst.
Anyone?
I'm not sure I understand your answer.bomohwkl wrote:Of course, when you are burst with thousands of unaswered questions and contradictions and self-verification is a problem too.................that's one hint thattell whether the story they are telling is true or not or useful for self-development. Of course, UFO exists but whether strory told by friends of ‘flying saucers’ is true or not is another matter!
and also (less relevant though):I had often spoken with friends of ‘flying saucers’ and was persuaded that they did, in fact, exist...
But in the interview, Michel answers the question with the opposite.Now I have the proof of what I had suspected for so long regarding the existence of parallel universes, the duality of our beings, and other unexplained occurrences.
Don't you think there is a contradiction between the first quote and the third quote? I certainly can't think of any excuse for Michel yet.Did you have an interest in UFOs and extraterrestrials before
your abduction?
No! When people would speak of such things, I would smile. I
did not think it was impossible, but I thought it was probably
not so.
Michel is saying that before the abduction, he did not have an interest in, nor believed in UFOs.bomohwkl wrote:One is Micheal's perception before and one is after the abduction. Of course, if you start to read/hear other alien stories, your mind will start going burst. I am sure you have experienced that before. Do you know why?
From the Interview:...and this is from Thiaoouba Prophecy: (emphasis mine)Did you have an interest in UFOs and extraterrestrials before
your abduction?
No! When people would speak of such things, I would smile. I
did not think it was impossible, but I thought it was probably
not so.
I had often spoken with friends of ‘flying saucers’ and was persuaded that they did, in fact, exist - but when you are actually faced with the reality, so many questions cloud your brain that you think it will burst.
I don't understand that at all.bomohwkl wrote:Sorry I mis-intepreted, I need to read in context.
Confusion and persuasion. When you are persuaded you often cannot stand on a single ground for long. Your mind is changable.
There are so many factors involved that you probably have not included in your thinking. Imagine an interview situation. There is somebody in front of you recording every word you say and waiting for you to answer his questions. There are his feelings, your feelings, his personality, yours as well, your partner reacts to everything you say, maybe the interviewer has a pre-made opinion to many things you say etc. It might be possible for you that you simply feel different about something when talking about it to a person you don't know very well plus when you're being recorded and know this. It could be that different aspects of the same memory pop into your mind at a given moment.Meedan wrote:This is a quote from one of the interviews he did (we discussed things from it in another post also), found at http://goldenplanetforum.com/library/de ... 0_1995.txt :
...and this is from Thiaoouba Prophecy:Did you have an interest in UFOs and extraterrestrials before
your abduction? (emphasis mine, yothu's)
No! When people would speak of such things, I would smile. I
did not think it was impossible, but I thought it was probably
not so.
I had often spoken with friends of ‘flying saucers’ and was persuaded that they did, in fact, exist - but when you are actually faced with the reality, so many questions cloud your brain that you think it will burst.
It certainly doesn't prove anything, it's just an argument. I try not to simply assume that an argument is correct, without opening it up to scrutiny.yothu wrote:I think that these quotes of Michel prove near to nothing. To me it is not even problematic.
From TFOC Forum. Tom is talking about Michel.He also insists, that what we call "schizophrenia" (experiencing multiple personalities) is not a disease, but actually the effect of experiencing feelings of other people via their common Higher Self. [Tom]
The main problem with that statement is that Schizophrenia is not about experiencing multiple personalities: "SCHIZOPHRENIA IS NOT "SPLIT-PERSONALITY." There is a common misconception that schizophrenia is multiple personalities or a Dr. Jekyll-Mr. Hyde syndrome. This is NOT accurate. In fact, multiple personality disorder is an entirely different disorder."
If - however - we excuse this statement as a misunderstanding of terms (were the Thiaooubians inaccurate with language again?), then we can take it to be talking about 'dissociative identity disorder' or 'multiple personality disorder'. Even with Michel's statement corrected, it is still unlikely to be true:
First of all, whether you think this phenomenon is about experiencing feelings of other people or not, it is still - in the vast majority of cases - a negative experience.
Also, this multiple personality condition is very often linked and traced back to a traumatic experience. The disorder has been cured by addressing these problems.
The alternative 'personality' that the subject feels (many scientists disagree that there is one), is an alternative way of perceiving the subject's OWN life. The feelings are related to the events in the subject's life and there is no suggestion that the personality's feelings are referring to anything else.
These are some references to the disorder:
http://www.sidran.org/didbr.html
http://www.swvacfip.org/Manual/MI/appen ... hrenia.htm
http://www.psychologyinfo.com/schizophrenia/
That is how I feel. I could not have expressed my feelings better than thisKesTrel wrote:I think it appears as a contradiction indeed, however I dont think its that big. In such a case you could have felt many diffrent ways at diffrent times in you're life. For instance when he was a child, when he was in the french army, when he was in africa, when he was in australlia thoughts and feelings, persecptions change.
. I could also describe contradictory statements about my past beliefs that would be also be true- eg:
I only can recall it everyday.
