shezmear wrote:From the little that I know or should I say speculate few benefit from coming down to a first category planet from a higher planet. Michel is not here because he wanted to learn more he is here because he missed behave in his previous life. They told him after the book was written they only showed him 80 lives not 81.Evadently the 81 life was a real firecracker. Why keep that a secret I don`t know.
Of course they wouldn't show him the life he is currently living... I do also get tired when I over-speculate things.
shezmear wrote:What I have observed where there is a absence of information people start to invent things….when you with hold information people either don`t look or invent some nonsense to forfill the basic desire to feel like "they Know" or get away from the feeling of "unknowing".
I think Robo was breeding because he could not keep it in his pants to use an Australian slang.…I don`t really know how else to say it. There was not some great insight to this guy. I think he just thought ***...gunner gets me some….
I know, it happens all the time, I'm myself guilty of it too because often I make theories up out of the information which is available to me so that I can focus on testing their validity, when I can't reach a definitive answer I also question the information that I have. Every mind which has a basic discipline of studying does that shezmear, this is something completely normal and I'm over with blaming people for doing it, the odds aren't exactly in our favor too you know; as it doesn't seem to matter how much you elucidate on a specific subject, there's always people looking for the easy way out who take what they don't really understand, as knowledge; like you say, to feel like they know or get away from the feeling of unknowing. To ease your speculation about my way of study, consider the following:
That if Robanan couldn't keep it in his pants then I doubt he was a guy from a cat7 planet, I've known cat1 people keeping it in their pants much better, I've also expressed this concern in my previous post.
What I use these little scraps of information for is for trying to understand the things that are related to it which involve me and my current situation, and in this case I don't really care if Robanan couldn't keep it in his pants or gave in to his instincts in his suffering, I'm not involved with what he had in his pants (thank god
) the thing is he has a done a full range of things he was free to do against universal law which led to great suffering; and that resonates with me because I see everyone (including myself) doing things against universal law and I see no other way to correct this other than educating myself about it first before I present my findings and understanding to others, if I'm to be given the chance. I don't also really care if you like to blame the people of thiaoouba for doing nothing about something Robanan couldn't keep in his pants...
because no matter how you take it they can't be blamed here, and they did what seemed most appropriate to them, even when they decided on doing nothing. As I said, we are not meant to look to them to save us, and if we do we will be disappointed, like what happened to Mu, Robanan etc.
I also doubt they will send a second messiah, and the Cults which are trying to force their hand in sending one are just digging our collective grave even deeper.
shezmear wrote:As far as what happened to MU, are you saying they all migrated to a higher existence? I don`t really understand what you are getting at or hinting at….
As far as advancing further that is an interesting notion….I don`t really know what they mean….or how you mean it. I`m not interesting in pay lips service to spiritual notions were I see little.
What I meant was advancing further in understanding the book. What you asked was why thiaooubans did nothing to save mu, and my reply was that they can't assume the role of protectors even of technologically and spiritually advanced civilizations like that of mu, when saving themselves should have been the first priority of the people of mu themselves, first and foremost; and Toth was the only person who took the pains of salvaging everything he could and store them properly for any civilization worthy enough of taking the place of mu. This does not fall in the category of making things up, it's not a theory it's a reality our civilization is bound to face due to the course we have taken in our history. You know this too, It is us who need to be able to live on this planet, not that there aren't enough planets to live on in the universe, but we are spiritual beings having a material existence for very specific reasons that at one time or the other we have seen to be the best thing we can do in the universe and I'm sure taking part in destroying a planet or disintegrating the society each of us live in wasn't something I or you ever planned on doing, so we must act according to our aspirations at least in our personal lives, for the sake of our own integrity.
We might not make it in time to educate ourselves and others with what we need to know and agree together with in order to do the things that need to be done to ensure that we continue to thrive on this planet, but I as one intend to make the most out of it to the best of my abilities, first by trying to inform and educate myself properly, to make sure I don't miss anything, I need to keep my connection to the truth of existence by making sure I have a clear understanding about the objective reality of the universe for the sake of my own spiritual development, now and in my future lives.
shezmear wrote:I`m cynical...and for good reason….It`s without irony that when you reach a conclusion after years well decades of thinking about some things it appears as arrested development to you. It does not bother me because I don`t think it is true…however it might appear that way I can accept that but I`m not moved either way by it.
What I will not do is play favourites with what I think the truth is…I`m not joining a school of thought…
I raise these question because it is very likely the people of Thiaoouba do not exist at all….and I go so far to say if they don`t exist it is their fault…because like I said we are all here and we are good people.
I'm sorry I owe you an apology. I also think that even if thiaooubans exist, we are on our own. What I care about is for you to continue to develop your own school of thought because I know I'll hate to be the only thinking person left on the planet.
When people disagree with me it only provokes me to think more. I thank god every day for ptex, ronald, rezo and a few others who are still here and I feel in company with. It's not that I can't do everything I think that needs to be done by myself, I just don't want to do everything by myself, I enjoy it more when I can check my decisions and my thoughts with you guys, I feel it makes me a better person, more in line with the sum of our collective school of thoughts.
There is not many of us who can afford to sit and brainstorm this to it's every imaginable end, and if this is the only thing we can do for now all I can ask for is doing it in productive way for our own sake and the sake of future generations (if there's going to be any).
shezmear wrote:I`m not assuming anyone as protectors I did not mean that..I hello would be prudent though. I'm not alone in this notion either Micheal felt the same way. This is not home work it`s "I can see you guys are working at something good job".
I`ll tell you know I have no problem laying down my life for a good cause what will not do is throw myself in front of a tank for some people and their notions of how it should be done. Meanwhile that can`t get off their intergalactic BUT and just say hi…sorry can`t do it. That`s not really how things work.
So the book is relegated to a couple of die hards talking on the net. Most people that find this book have had some sort of other dealings with other belief systems 'this is one that fitted for now".
This silly little game of cat and mouse and they say in TP "Ets that watch over them"..Oh yeah….
Homework done….I got a life to live….look me up when you're in town..or not….
I'm not concerned with what the Meanwells feel, I'm very disappointed with them. TP is one of those rare books you can be cynical about for as long as you don't understand it well enough, it is upon the individual to verify enough of the book to be true in order to take the rest seriously enough to make it a subject of study and research. The meanwells made a laughing stock out of themselves by first actively preaching the book and now throwing it out of the window when they made as much money as they could out of it as the beliefs they developed out of it is not a belief system that fits them anymore. I've heard the nonsense they preach in their "lectures", so I'm not surprised to know they are cynical about it.
Completely understanding the logic of the book is not something obscured, it's not something out of reach, it requires serious study and enough research.
Noone needs you to lay down your life for a good cause, but rather take it up in it's full glory and make the most of what you know it is necessary to satisfy all your needs, including your intellectual and spiritual needs. Thiaooubans watch over the evolution of consciousness in the universe, to make sure everything goes on according to the purpose of its creator. Our lives are temporary fluctuations of out existence in a temporary environment that we wanted to educate ourselves through for what WE have come to agree to be the BEST thing for us to do in the universe given ALL available options.
The very illnesses that we experience are because
we disturb the natural balance of our own bodies and yet when we fail to restore the balance we think higher-power is needed to "save" and "heal" us, without taking the responsibility of our own ignorance and then our own lack of understanding, yet we blame the gods when we don't get magically saved and healed.
Thiaooubans are not responsible for people thinking that they should save them, hence they don't need to come out and say hi sorry we can't save you.
The essence of Consciousness, is the ability to Create, Process, Transmit and Receive Information Autonomously.