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Post: # 2252Post Vesko »

Alisima, the question is actually questions -- both how and why :).

Well, the easy method, but with one which is not possible to cover a lot of ground in search for a true love, is to go out, meet people, in one word, socialise. For example, today I unexpectedly met a girl with whom I talked for 2 hours non-stop, and definitely clicked mentally with each other. She does practice yoga, understands the value of mental and specifically spiritual development, gave indication she does not value money for money's sake, too. In the end, neither of us got bored of our conversation, far from it.

The other method that allows one to cover greater search area, is via the Internet -- interaction in forums such as this one. The disadvantage here is that on the Internet, it is far easier to present oneself as someone who one isn't, than when the communication happens physically between two people face-to-face.

A combination of the above two methods is certainly a good starting point.

Okay, but I've been wondering something else. In "Thiaoouba Prophecy", while in the psychosphere and in the past, Michel sensed a familiar astral presence in another person (not a previous incarnation of Michel) without knowing the person's outer appearance-- I am referring to Latoli's past incarnation as the last king of Mu. He didn't know this person by his outside appearance but he was able to become aware of enough of Latoli's astral body at the time at the disappearance of Mu, to be able to match it with Latoli's developed one "in the now". Commenting the phenomena, Latoli told Michel that he had recognized her astral vibrations.

I didn't really want to mention the psychosphere because someone will surely think "oh, no, it's this far-fetched thing again and Vesko mentions it again" but if this "psychosphere" is anything but a library of everything that happened on the planet, there must be a way to find one or more unknown *other* persons that have spiritual affinity to you by way of this same vibrational similarity that Latoli said Michel recognized. In our case of searching for a true love, we'll simply search for a vibrational similarity that matches ours. For all ends and purposes, finding true love is nothing but finding more or less yourself in another person, isn't it? Given that in the psychosphere it is possible to say "Go to event x from year y", why would it not be possible to say / focus on the thought "Show me the location of a living person (of the opposite sex) who is spiritually very similar to me and is no older and at most 5 years younger than me" and get a useful result?

What do you think of this no doubt appearing zany (to many) matchmaking theory?
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Post: # 2259Post GreatIntellect »

Oh cool! My topic got put in its own category. :P
Vesko wrote:Given that in the psychosphere it is possible to say "Go to event x from year y", why would it not be possible to say / focus on the thought "Show me the location of a living person (of the opposite sex) who is spiritually very similar to me and is no older and at most 5 years younger than me" and get a useful result?
I don't see why it couldn't happen, frankly. It seems every bit as possible as just sitting here and writing this right now! (At least, to me.) Then again, I haven't had much experience with the Psychosphere myself. I've been trying to get my hands on a copy of James Churchwood's Mu books, so I've been preoccupied.

There's been a lot of things going on with me personally right now, especially in terms of my love life. A lot of this stuff is starting to make more and more sense...
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Post: # 2260Post Alisima »

I think that it takes a lot of training, not to mention the time, to operate the psychosphere in such a manner. And afterwards, that person needs to like you too!!
Alisima, the question is actually questions -- both how and why.
I dont agree. The how will seem obvious and logical once the why is answered correctly. But i understand how you can become trapped in asking yourself "but how do i do that?" constantly.
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For all ends and purposes, finding true love is nothing but finding more or less yourself in another person, isn't it?
that's mutual soulmates.......the more you understanding yourself the more you are able to access whether someone could be your soulmate. That's one of the reasons why I am extremely skeptical of the concept of intense feeling of the so-called twin flames.
today I unexpectedly met a girl with whom I talked for 2 hours non-stop, and definitely clicked mentally with each other. She does practice yoga, understands the value of mental and specifically spiritual development, gave indication she does not value money for money's sake, has interests and education in mathematics and programming, too
I have no doubt that Vesko will see her as your "twin". You will see a"ghost" image of her. You will see a part of you (mental) in her. Enjoy your journey Vesko! Don't rush is my advice. Just talking from my experience.
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Alisima wrote:I think that it takes a lot of training, not to mention the time, to operate the psychosphere in such a manner. And afterwards, that person needs to like you too!!
Immense training, as confirmed by Robert Bruce.
I dont agree. The how will seem obvious and logical once the why is answered correctly. But i understand how you can become trapped in asking yourself "but how do i do that?" constantly.
Maybe I agree with you. :) Perhaps you are trying to tell me that something along the lines of "when the student is ready, the teacher will appear"?
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bomohwkl wrote:For all ends and purposes, finding true love is nothing but finding more or less yourself in another person, isn't it?
that's mutual soulmates.......the more you understanding yourself the more you are able to access whether someone could be your soulmate. That's one of the reasons why I am extremely skeptical of the concept of intense feeling of the so-called twin flames.

Tell me if I understand you correctly: do you think that such all-pervading, intense feeling does not have a positive purpose?
I have no doubt that Vesko will see her as your "twin". You will see a"ghost" image of her. You will see a part of you (mental) in her. Enjoy your journey Vesko! Don't rush is my advice. Just talking from my experience.
Absolutely, no rushing... thanks! No twin feeling at this point.
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Do you see a brilliant mind vesko ?
‘And there we are. When you push away your neighbours, your son or your daughter - if you aren’t always ready to help even those whom you don’t like, you contribute to the disintegration of your civilisation. And this is what is happening on Earth more and more, through hate and violence."
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Post: # 2271Post Vesko »

GreatIntellect wrote:Oh cool! My topic got put in its own category. :P
Congratulations!
GreatIntellect wrote:
Vesko wrote:Given that in the psychosphere it is possible to say "Go to event x from year y", why would it not be possible to say / focus on the thought "Show me the location of a living person (of the opposite sex) who is spiritually very similar to me and is no older and at most 5 years younger than me" and get a useful result?
don't see why it couldn't happen, frankly. It seems every bit as possible as just sitting here and writing this right now! (At least, to me.) Then again, I haven't had much experience with the Psychosphere myself. I've been trying to get my hands on a copy of James Churchwood's Mu books, so I've been preoccupied.
Indeed! The books: order them from Amazon (where I got them from), or from the Brotherhood of Life (no, this is not a sect :)). If you order them all (minus the Book of the Golden Age perhaps) you might be able to get a discount. In 2003 they gave me but then I had trouble communicating with them and went with Amazon.
There's been a lot of things going on with me personally right now, especially in terms of my love life. A lot of this stuff is starting to make more and more sense...
I hope that there are amazing positive experiences before you!
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Kestrel wrote:Do you see a brilliant mind vesko ?
Yes, I think she's quite smart. However, no, don't make me say more, nothing has happened and no, I don't have any plans. Things have to develop naturally.
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:D Thanks Vesko, I wont probe you don't worry.
‘And there we are. When you push away your neighbours, your son or your daughter - if you aren’t always ready to help even those whom you don’t like, you contribute to the disintegration of your civilisation. And this is what is happening on Earth more and more, through hate and violence."
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Post: # 2275Post bomohwkl »

do you think that such all-pervading, intense feeling does not have a positive purpose?
yes..to have SEX and to give birth a child!! :D So that next generation can be maintained. Our life span is aproximately 100 years. If we all think like Thiaooubians but live only 100 years old, the earth would be too few populated. That's why falling in 'love' just last about a year or two before you fall out of it! The female needed to be protected while pregnancy. Nature gives several examples. Unfortunately, when a species of population is too populated, gayism occured in that species, strangely enough have a effect of slowing down the population growth.
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Post: # 2278Post Vesko »

So you are saying that such all-pervading love always ends in a while?
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Post: # 2280Post Alisima »

Vesko wrote:Maybe I agree with you. :) Perhaps you are trying to tell me that something along the lines of "when the student is ready, the teacher will appear"?
I dont even have to say it :lol:
Vesko wrote:So you are saying that such all-pervading love always ends in a while?
Maybe he is right. It could be that the main reason for having love (the sexual one) is to ensure survival through multiplication.

So that makes it quite primitive.
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Alisima wrote:
Vesko wrote:So you are saying that such all-pervading love always ends in a while?
Maybe he is right. It could be that the main reason for having love (the sexual one) is to ensure survival through multiplication.

So that makes it quite primitive.
Maybe I am a hopeless idealist, but I do believe in achievable long-term intense fulfilling love between a male and a female. I think I believed in that even before I read "Thiaoouba Prophecy", because if we refer to the book, we discover that sexuality in the context of a spiritual love is to play a permanent part in one's life:

From Chapter 13: "Coming back 'home'":
Now, at the bottom of the fluidic body and just above the sex organs, is found a very important Chakra, which we call the Mouladhara, and which your yogis call Sacred. Above this Chakra, and meeting the spinal column, is the Paltanius. It is in the form of a coiled spring and only reaches the base of the spinal column when it is relaxed.
For it to become relaxed, it requires the accomplishment of the sexual act between two partners who must not only love one another, but also have a spiritual affinity between them. Only at that moment and under these conditions will the Paltanius extend to the spinal column, transferring an energy and special gifts to the physiological body which then affects the physical body. The person concerned will experience happiness in sexual enjoyment which is far greater than normal.
When, on your planet, you hear such expressions among people very much in love as: "We were in seventh heaven", "we felt light" or "we were floating on air", you can be sure that the couples were in physical and spiritual accord and "made for one another" -- at least for a while.
Certain Tantrists on Earth have attained this point, but it isn't common among them, for still their religions, with ridiculous rituals and prohibitions, creates a real obstacle to attaining this goal. When they look at the forest, they don't see the trees.
Let's go back to our loving couple. The man has experienced great pleasure transformed into beneficial vibrations for the Paltanius, thanks to a love which is genuine, and absolute compatibility. All these sensations of happiness were released by the accomplishment of the sexual act. The sensations of happiness are not the same with the female, but the process is the same with her.
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Nature gave every living thing the possibility of reproduction, that various species might continue. According to the Creator's will, males and females have been created in all species. With human beings, however, and for the reasons we have already explained, he added features not given to other species. For example, a woman can bloom in sexual fulfillment, achieving a range of sexual sensations which can release the Paltanius and bring about vast improvements in her physical body by way of the fluidic body. That can happen over numerous days of the month without her becoming pregnant.
Based on the above, do you see now that sex with a partner of the opposite sex with whom you have true spiritual affinity and are in true love, should become a life-long activity, is completely separate from any reproduction and instead of being primitive is absolutely at the other end of the spectrum: a means for experiencing the highest sensations of love and oneness?
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bomohwkl wrote:
Vesko wrote:do you think that such all-pervading, intense feeling does not have a positive purpose?
yes..to have SEX and to give birth a child!! :D So that next generation can be maintained. Our life span is aproximately 100 years. If we all think like Thiaooubians but live only 100 years old, the earth would be too few populated. That's why falling in 'love' just last about a year or two before you fall out of it! The female needed to be protected while pregnancy. Nature gives several examples. Unfortunately, when a species of population is too populated, gayism occured in that species, strangely enough have a effect of slowing down the population growth.
How do Thiaooubans think in regard to reproduction? They say nothing about how many children you should have.

Also, I think that falling out of love is a choice, and there is nothing in Nature forcing one to fall out of love. You fall out of love if you and your partner become out of sync with each other. As long as your thoughts, desires and dreams are compatible, love can continue indefinitely. I do not think that love is possible to continue without a conscious effort on the part of both partners, in fact, I think that a lot of effort in needed, but it is quite possible and very desirable, IMHO.
Again, I say that perhaps I am a hopeless idealist, but I like it that way!
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