"Google Earth" (Software)

[InfoSource]

You can check out this interesting piece of software, which allows you to see 3D images of geographically location all around the world

http://earth.google.com/
http://kh.google.com/download/earth/index.html (free version page)

[TomJansen]

I can't get it to work on my Linux-system, but I guess it's a cool program.

In my country, the Netherlands, politicians are discussing whether they consider Google Earth as "safe" or not. Some are afraid as possibly "terrorists targets" can be viewed with the program. The Australian ministry of defence called the program a potential threat for the national security, because it can zoom in on a nuclear plant.
(Got that from a Dutch website. Personally I think there's no problem because "terrorism" is a hoax and besides satelite data can be retrieved otherwise.)


For those who, like me, cannot run Google Earth, there's a webbased 2D alternative: Google Maps. http://maps.google.com/

For example, you can see Area 51 here:
http://maps.google.com/maps?q=las+vegas ... &t=h&hl=en
Three Egyptian pyramids:
http://maps.google.com/maps?ll=29.97568 ... &t=h&hl=en
Two other Egyptian pyramids:
http://maps.google.com/maps?q=cairo&ll= ... &t=h&hl=en

Anyone lucky to find the lines of Nazca?

[Bastian]

(Got that from a Dutch website. Personally I think there's no problem because "terrorism" is a hoax and besides satelite data can be retrieved otherwise.)

hi tom,
In what way is terrorism is a hoax? Share your thoughts / theories by the way, Noam Chomsky gave some good speeches on terrorism.. and how the use of the word tends to be hypocritical.

Whilst the satellite data may be freely accessible elsewhere (is it?), that doesn't mean that a terrorist would otherwise have the knowledge required to make use of that data... how accessible a technology is makes a huge impact on how readily it can be misused and abused. And google has made that information highly accessible. Imagine if nuclear bombs were so easy to build, and the parts so accessible that any 14 year old could build one.

[TomJansen]

It was the same Dutch text were I read that the satelite imagery is available otherwise. Also I would guess that it must be, because else Google wouldn't be able and allowed to publish the imagery.

Google gets the data from EarthSat, DigitalGlobe and Sanborn, and maybe some others. These sources seem to charge money for the images and give away freely only some sample or low-resolution images. So it is very true that Google makes accessing the data much easier. At least for "consumers". I would guess big organisations or very smart people can go without Google.

It is quite a radical statement I did by the way, that "terrorism" is a hoax. And I confess I don't even know that much about it, neither is it my theory. But I think I found enough reasons for myself to disbelieve what governments and mainstream media are telling about the backgrounds of some terrible events. These seem not to be caused by fundamentalistic Moslems. I prefer to believe what truth-seeking honest people tell.

Tom Chalko wrote in the FAQ:

Few individuals (12 families or so) control the entire monetary system on Earth. Most people do not even know who they are; they hide themselves using banks they own. They have succeeded in convincing most people on Earth that making $ is the ultimate goal in life. They throw some $ for grabs and people compete, fight for them, are ready to kill, even make a war. They also lend money to governments and soon everyone becomes a puppet controlled by a $. Guess who benefits most.

To keep or gain more control over the people, fear is a very powerful tool. That's really effective, for example when last summer in Europe there were referenda about a possible new constitution, the most frequently used argument for the constitution was the ability to fight terrorism together. And the constitution contained some hidden bad things.

It is visible on film that one of the airplanes used on the 11th of september, was carrying missiles. Some people witnes these missiles.

As you know, there are tons of websites about this (no TV-shows) and there's no need to link to them. But there's one page I'd like to emphasize:
http://100777.com/node/1343 which sais that Al Qaeda is originaly a database of the CIA.

I see Noam Chomsky has written much about American politics. He knows those things "which are not on TV." But I have yet to read some of his work.

But I feel this is all a bit off-topic...

[InfoSource]

I agree completely Tom Jansen about terrorism, I'm sure what's going on in the Middle East has angered many Muslims and maybe lead some of them to violent acts, but the majority of terrorism is being perpetuated by governments (9/11, the London bombings)

Here's some links

http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/osama_dead.html

Above is a link about the probability that Osama Bin Laden is dead

http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/9-11_wtc_media.html

Question about the World Trade Centre collapse, which could very well be a controlled demolition

I'm pretty sure for reading lots of websites that the Iraq war was for Oil and building strategic bases in the Middle East

The reasons given for going into Iraq were because of the possibility the Saddam Hussein had WMD’S (false), a link between Saddam and 9/11 (false), a link between Al Qaeda and Saddam (false)

Also a document called the Downing Street Memo showed the intelligence was fixed for going to war with Iraq

And about the Nasca Lines I think there somwehere in South America (Chile?)

[Yothu]

"Everybody wants to go to Bhagdad, real man want to go to Teheran." March 2003

Isn't that happening right now? I wonder for what reasons exactly.
Quote from http://www.ratical.org/ratville/CAH/RRiraqWar.html

[InfoSource]

Well that was one long article Yothu, It summarized the reasons for the Iraq War pretty well

The real reasons for the war according to the article are:

In conclusion, the Iraq war was designed to 1) secure U.S./U.K. oil supplies before and after global Peak Oil, and 2) to have a large military presence to "dissuade" other oil-producers from moving towards the euro as an oil transaction currency. These are the two crucial elements for maintaining U.S. hegemony over the world economy. Reconverting Iraq back to the petrodollar was not the critical issue, but preventing any further momentum towards a petroeuro is a critical component of current US Geostrategy. While deceiving the American people into war, this administration sent a message to other OPEC-producers -- "You are either with us or against us."

This is similiar to some of the stuff that Chalko has talked about in his readers forum

As far as a war with Iran goes, that a possibility but I don't think the US has the man power to go there since there being weakened as it is in Iraq by the insurgents, and nobody is going to support a war with Iran